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Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:56 am
by cbusick
In. See you there.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:00 pm
by PJ McQuade
Likewise.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:00 pm
by cbusick
Oops wrong thread.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:59 am
by KTeves
I'm out. Reconnoitered the course last Sunday (and glad I did

Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:11 pm
by mfwestbe
I'm still in, but may know less of the roads than you do. I also decided it was a good idea to go up Greylock this morning, so I may not be able to hit the hills as hard as I'd like.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:48 pm
by pcollins
in
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:26 pm
by Robd2
KTeves wrote:I'm out. Reconnoitered the course last Sunday (and glad I did

KT, give us some details about that 5 mile long drag up starting around mile 8. Not steep but i bet that will be pretty tough if the pack is drilling it.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:57 am
by KTeves
Sorry for the late response, but here it is anyway.
Yeah Rob, you are certainly right about that. I rode the section at tempo to 'sweet spot' power and hope that will be enough to hang with the pack during the race, but I'm sure I'll have to go beyond that, so expecting suffering.
In my eyes the hill(s) prior to the long grade will be pivotal. Taken together they climb 560' in about 1.1 miles and they average 8% with about 14% max.. There's a short downhill between the two sections that gives welcome relief, but it's short-lived. The hill comes just 3 miles into the race so I personally think a good warm-up is warranted. The second time around is no picnic either.
There's also a significant climb just prior to turning onto 8A which will make you appreciate the start of the screaming downhill back to Hawley.
The road surfaces are generally in excellent condition. There are exceptions (Upper Rd.) having a rough chip & seal surface with crack sealer and some patches, but I don't recall a single hole in the road.
But you know all this after yesterday's recon. What are your thoughts on the race / course?
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:49 pm
by Robd2
KTeves wrote:But you know all this after yesterday's recon. What are your thoughts on the race / course?
I don't have much to comment but I think all the guys from yesterday will agree:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPNQ82Sq4E&
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:58 pm
by pace21
KTeves wrote: I rode the section at tempo to 'sweet spot' power and hope that will be enough to hang with the pack during the race
Let us know how that works out

Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:13 pm
by KTeves
@ Chris P. - I guess you're not aware: my 'Sweet Spot' power if FREAKING HUGE!!

Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:39 am
by mfwestbe
Robd2 wrote:KTeves wrote:But you know all this after yesterday's recon. What are your thoughts on the race / course?
I don't have much to comment but I think all the guys from yesterday will agree:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPNQ82Sq4E&
Very much agreed. Thanks again for putting together our pain preview
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:44 am
by cbusick
Here's the flyby of the recon:
http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#16 ... IFCryIBgo=
On the first lap I waited for the OTB NEBC guy at the top of E Main hill,
but other than that you can use the rate of separation between Patrick and I as an indicator of how wonderful the hills are, esp on the second lap.
3 Miles in you have a 300' climb, a little dip then a 200' climb. Both were steep enough to put me over onto my 39-27 and had me wishing I hadn't left the 29 on my other wheels.
I was jealous of Mike's compact.
After that, you have 3 miles to recover before the 5.2 mile 20 minute climb that has been described as two oak hills back to back.
5 Miles later, the right turn onto E Main at mile 18 is another 5 minute climb that shouldn't be ignored.(1.3 miles avg 4% but it includes a dip in the middle)
Strava segment:
http://www.strava.com/segments/7689692
Finally, at mile 20.6 you have
http://www.strava.com/segments/7684397 116 N Prospect to Hawley St. Another 1.3 miles at 4% before you get to start going down.
And then you get to do it all again.

Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:44 am
by KTeves
I just reg'd for the 3.5 hours of pain & suffering — I mean fun — that will be the 2014 edition of the TOTH. Cat. 4.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:31 pm
by mfwestbe
cbusick wrote:
I was jealous of Mike's compact.
Nope - still have my standard 53/39. Although as of a few weeks ago I do have a an 11-28 cassette now. A worthy purchase.
Glad you'll be joining us, Kevin.
Weather looks warm. It says "80" right now, but we all know how that really means 87 and humid.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:28 am
by KTeves
@MW - 'Us' appears to be just you and I so far.
@CBusick - I assume you are planning to race? Any other cat. 4's?
Any ideas about the feedzone (the race guide doesn't mention it, but I sent an email to NCC and there will be one near the start)? My sometimes soigneur will be on the Cape the w/e.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:45 pm
by cbusick
Kevin,
I'm out. Back problems this week have kept me of the bike
-Chris
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:01 am
by slisab72
Ladies, too? I plan on racing it and would like to see the course.
Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:04 am
by miker2
mfwestbe wrote: ↑Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:18 pm
pace21 wrote:Will you have a pig roast?
If you come, we'll hunt a wild board after the ride just for you.
Are we talking pine, oak or hemlock?

Re: Hilltowns Recon Ride 7/19
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:46 am
by KTeves
slisab72 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:01 am
Ladies, too? I plan on racing it and would like to see the course.
Sharon, the thread that you are responding to is from 2014. Not sure about plans to recon the course as of now this year, but I had hoped to.